Lore talk:Mirrormoor

Merge

As per the reveal in Gold Road that Fargrave was once Ithelia's realm of Mirrormoor, the info from this page should be added to Fargrave's. --Rezalon (talk) 14:00, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Information from this page should be mentioned on Fargrave's page, but the current practice seems to be against a merge when something changes names/ownership to the point it is effectively a different place. We have Lore:Jyggalag's Realm, as well as Lore:Shivering Isles as separate articles. We also maintain Lore:Dragonguard and Lore:Blades separately. Arguably another case is Lore:Lyg with Lore:Nirn. --AKB ^{Talk Cont Mail} 15:28, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I have yet to play Gold Road yet so if someone could please clarify, is Fargrave the current form of Mirrormoor or is it a piece of Mirrormoor that got separated and flung into Oblivion? In the case of the latter, it would be more similar to the Village of the Lost-Coldharbour situation, where there is a relation but both realms are separate. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 20:18, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

From what I recall, it's a bit of both. First it's outright stated that Fargrave itself was Mirrormoor, but then it's suggested that the part of Mirrormoor we (the player) visit used to be a part of Fargrave but is no longer. --Rezalon (talk) 04:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Shardmarshall Vargas repeatedly calls Fargrave "Mirrormoor", and Leramil also theorizes that it was Ithelia's realm before her imprisonment but has since fallen to ruin. At the same time its repeatedly stated by Torvesard that they wish to resurrect Mirrormoor, their home, Leramil mentions that Mirrormoor "follows in its prince's wake" in response to Fargrave transforming, and that a Bearer is being changed to its "Mirrormoor reflection", and she later specifies that the lost quarter you are in might have been part of Mirrormoor. Mora also mentions that Mirrormoor is a "shattered ruin". Further Fargrave is a "demiplane" whereas per Leramil all proper Oblivion realms are infinite just as Apocrypha is. The Bearers also don't revive in response to Ithelia's return, unlike the Shardborn who return. Taken together, I think its more that Fargrave is an important fragment of the shattered realm that was once Mirrormoor and exists now in a different state to what was (Mirrormoor is the glass-like realm that starts overtaking Fargrave once Ithelia returns). For this I'd personally say the current Fargrave is different enough to what Mirrormoor was to maintain as a separate article that notes a relationship, but it could be either way, really.--Gleaming Veil (talk) 18:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree that Fargrave is different enough to what Mirrormoor used to be, even if Fargrave was once Mirrormoor. I think they should stay separate articles since it seems directly comparable to what we have done for Jyggalag’s Realm and the Shivering Isles. BananaKing5 (talk) 22:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I am also in favor of the pages remaining separate. It's almost like a "region" aswell.Tarponpet (talk) 00:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Its looking like the general opinion is to keep them separate but note the relation between the two. It would be good to link Fargrave and bold it as it was in a way the original Mirrormoor. The Rim of the Sky (talk) 07:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)